talks with the moving target
By Diogenes (articles ) | Jun 07, 2006
Kasper warns Williams that, if the C of E won't sit still long enough to get her picture taken, she won't be allowed to make her first communion. From The Times of London:
A Vatican cardinal has told the Church of England that to consecrate women as bishops would make unity "unreachable" and shared Communion impossible.
Cardinal Walter Kasper, the head of the Council for Christian Unity, has urged the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, and his fellow bishops not to proceed towards women becoming bishops without support from the Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches. ...
Cardinal Kasper, a compatriot of the Pope who as a young priest taught, like him, at Tübingen University in Germany, addressed a private meeting this week of the Church of England's bishops at Market Bosworth, Leicestershire.
Poor Archbishop Williams. He may know a bureaucratic gambit or two for delaying The Inevitable with fabricated committee-work, but he can no more stop the turbines of progressivist Progress than the onset of winter. Worse, he has to pretend to be concerned about it.
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Posted by: Pseudodionysius -
Jun. 11, 2006 3:21 PM ET USA
This reads like a scene from the verb conjugation lessons in Monty Python's Holy Grail.
Posted by: NonSumDignus -
Jun. 11, 2006 10:26 AM ET USA
"Absolutely null and utterly void!" Of course, there are those in the Anglican ecclesial community who, clinging to an excessively mechanical and inorganic sense of Apostolic Succession, try to make sure that they can trace their "Orders" to the Old Catholics and the Church of Utrecht. It's a sad game really. Prayer is the only recourse: "Ut unum sint!"
Posted by: benedictusoblatus -
Jun. 10, 2006 1:12 PM ET USA
The guy in the picture is no more a bishop than Richard Burton was when he played "Becket" many years ago. He is a layman. Pope Leo XIII put an end to speculation about the validity of Anglican orders. Mr. Williams can "ordain" or "consecrate" any woman or homo he likes. In the end they still remain women and homos (sp?). These poor people need the grace of conversion, not interminable dialogue with Vatican officials that only confirms them in their current errors.
Posted by: -
Jun. 08, 2006 11:59 AM ET USA
Special ops, you are too rigid! The spirit of ecumenism calls for compromise, not conversion. Besides, what’s the Church’s problem with a little buggery between friends?
Posted by: Fr. William -
Jun. 07, 2006 11:41 PM ET USA
Cdl. Kasper needs a refresher on where the Church of England is at. His statements are, at best, misleading. Look, to even hint of a possible "shared Communion" with a sodomite-sanctioning C of E is a lie. The C of E is already "ordaining" women & officially "promoting" bishops who live the gay lifestyle (the RC bishops with this disorder need to be retired). Members of the C of E will be in Communion with the Roman Catholic Church only when each of them formally leaves the C of E and converts.
Posted by: Catholicity -
Jun. 07, 2006 11:09 PM ET USA
"...not to proceed towards women becoming bishops without support from the Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches?" So the Orthodox and Catholic Churches are going to support women bishops? I don't get the logic of that sentence. Its gibberish. Women can't be priests. Women can't be bishops. Anglican orders are invalid anyhow so they're neither. This is doublespeak.
Posted by: Charles134 -
Jun. 07, 2006 5:08 PM ET USA
I Am Curious-Yellow
Posted by: -
Jun. 07, 2006 3:20 PM ET USA
A Vatican cardinal has told the Church of England that to consecrate women as bishops would make unity "unreachable" and shared Communion impossible. I thought that the admittance of Anglican woman priests already made unity unreachable and shared communion impossible. Anglicans permit woman bishops already in the USA, Canada, Australia, etc.